Monthly Archives: October 2015

Motorcycle Parking Selfie


The sound of a motorcycle parking selfie is pure ridiculousness. Or is it?  A couple of weeks ago we received an inquiry through the website from a rider that was coming down to attend a work event at Aliso Beach.  It sounds more like play to me but good for him.  His question was related to parking his bike at Aliso and his concern that either his parking pass would be stolen or blown away by the wind.  I have been working my way through the County of Orange to get their policy for motorcycles parked in the Aliso Beach lots and it has been a lengthy and unfinished process. They must be busy because getting a hold of the right contacts hasn’t been easy.  I think I have the right contact now but can’t seem to catch her at the right time or get a return call.

When I saw a parking enforcement officer at Aliso Beach this morning, I decided to ask him where a motorcycle rider be expected to display his ticket.  I told the gentleman, who probably thought I yelled across the lot in his direction to pick on him for giving tickets, that someone told me he was concerned parking his motorcycle at Aliso Beach because he had no place to put the paid parking ticket.  He also felt like if he placed his ticket it could be stolen.  The parking enforcer did not agree with the sentiment that the ticket could be stolen, or at least he had never heard of that happening, and indicated that parking enforcement officers were trained to circle a bike looking for the ticket on the front, sides and back.  If a bike didn’t have a shield he recommended the license plate as a good place to secure the ticket.

The Laguna Police Department parking enforcement representative said something that really surprised me and it is along the lines of what I told the dude who reached out to me with the question.  He recommended that motorcycle riders take a picture of the pass for their records.  I would love to know if such a picture ever helped the recipient of a ticket ever get out of the fine. Forgive my cynicism but part of me finds that not believable, but I digress.  I am piling on this recommendation and saying I absolutely think motorcycle riders should take pictures of their tickets for their protection.

Ticket givers love to give tickets.  It is their job.  It seems like most people agree that it is nearly impossible to wiggle out of paying them and perhaps not worth the bureaucracy of fighting tickets. I am going to suggest taking the picture of the ticket thing to an extreme.  Here is what I am saying riders should do.

Picture 1:  Picture of the ticket slip

Picture 2: Picture of the ticket slip affixed to the license plate of the motorcycle with license plate clearly visible

Picture 3: A Motorcycle Parking Selfie with you sitting next to rear of the bike with ticket affixed to the rear license plate

Look, I know it is silly.  I just don’t want anyone to get tickets.  While I believe that ticket money goes to keeping Aliso Beach a nice place I am trying to keep more of your money in your pockets.  So motorcycle riders, the rest is up to you.  My work here is done!

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Offshore Winds


There is something about offshore winds that soothes soul here in coastal Southern California.  I have plenty of words but I am not sure I can perfectly explain it.  It seems like we have less offshore winds at the beach than we once did.  Late in the evening yesterday the winds intensified with that unmistakable feel and sound of a northeast wind.  Those of us in the wave riding community know that offshore winds present rare opportunities to capture epic surf days with waves perfectly groomed. Hearing the palm trees sway and the fronds rustle in the wind, I knew the drive into work would take a detour to Aliso Beach.

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Santa Anas push back on Aliso Beach wave

While the surf was less than spectacular, local body surfer Ron Pringle was kind enough to let me know that he and Henry Long scored it perfect at first light.  You have to love Ron who in his 5th decade of life continues to look at the ocean, waves and body surfing wide-eyed and with the enthusiasm of a young boy.  We all get old and I understand that we want to hang on to that youthful feeling as long as we can.  Ron told me that Henry got a triple in and out wave with the offshore winds keeping the shore break wave open and with an exit.  Henry told me he was surprised to come out of the barrel but that the winds made it possible.

Some of the other usual suspects that frequent Aliso Beach.  Nick Hernandez, Austin Keen, and a small group of skimmers were at Aliso beckoned by the hopes of perfectly molded waves by Santa Ana winds.  There was also a visiting skimmer from Mexico who was taking advantage of the nearly crowd free conditions.  It must have been nice for her to get waves in decent conditions considering how popular this South Laguna Beach is for skim boarding.

I was hoping the conditions would be good enough for me to hop out and get a few waves on the body board but as it happens often, I didn’t get up early enough to take advantage of a lower tide. There was a foam top surfer that was milking what waves he could before the higher tide washed out any water resembling something worth riding. He got a couple of good ones and participated in a tense moment in a near collision with the visiting skimmer from south of the border.  It really wasn’t that close but as I saw the surfer take off and the skim boarder running towards the wave I thought it would be interesting to capture them on the same wave.

Unfortunately, I was skunked.  There was no jumping out and getting a few waves.  It just wasn’t good enough to body board when I arrived.  While I was disappointed that there wasn’t an opportunity to step into liquid this morning, I know that no matter what there will be some of the cool people I know from the Laguna Beach wave riding community that I enjoy talking to on the beach.

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To Swim Or Not To Swim


To swim or not to swim at Aliso Beach, that is the question.  When you look at online reviews of Aliso Beach, a lot of the complaints this South Laguna spot gets is how rough the water is.  While the negative comments associated with experiencing dangerous wave conditions are truthful, every person that comes to the beach has the opportunity to review wave conditions prior to coming to the beach.  I don’t know many people that aren’t fascinated by the ocean and that translates to children and families that are disappointed when conditions are too rough and life guards are asking people to stay out of the water.  5 minutes of online review at a current ocean and wave condition reporting hub like Solspot could save the family a disappointing trip to the ocean.  Looking out over 5 days of forecasting for Aliso Beach and a long range forecast posted twice a week, people can plan in a way that their families and children can enjoy the waters of Aliso Beach safely.  If you are bringing kids or you are inexperienced in shore break waves, try and plan to visit the beach when the waves are 1-2 foot.  If you decide to come when there is larger surf, talk to life guards about current and expected wave conditions to make sure it is safe.

Aliso Beach is an extreme sloping beach with waves that basically pound the shore. When the tides are higher, the waves basically land at the water’s edge making even standing there risky.  Life guards will run up and down the beach whisking children and obviously inexperienced beach visitors away from the crashing waves. If you are going to take the waves on despite the elevated dangers in larger surf, you should wear swim fins.  Without these, the ocean has an even more powerful grip on swimmers when the conditions are dangerous.  People in the wave riding communities that are not skim boarders and surfers never enter the ocean without fins.

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Tourist taking on big wave at Aliso Beach.

There are plenty of smaller surf days that are safe.  There are also plenty of days that will raise the question to swim or not to swim.  I took this photo with my IPhone in September of 2015. This tourist was trying to impress his significant other and swim out into the huge shore break.  There were sets 8-10 foot and the waves were pile driving the shore line.  He puffed his chest out like he was the man and ran out into the waves.  No he did not have any swim fins which on a day like this could be a life saver. He had my attention because I knew it wasn’t a good thing.  He had to get under at least 4 of these waves and he got thrashings probably unlike anything he has experienced in his life.  I watched him take these beatings thinking someone might have to go out and get this guy.  He quickly decided that it was too rough and he had experienced enough. The waves shoved him towards shore and as he tried to exit the water the water rushing from the high tide line back out to the waves was so powerful it was knocking him down and impeding his progress to shore. Of course that meant that the took a couple more beatings but he was finally able to overcome the grip that the Aliso Beach shore break had on him.  The look on his face when he got to shore was priceless. He had that what the hell just happened look on his face topped off with an incredible sense of relief. His venture out into conditions he should not have been in lasted oh about 15 minutes.  The dude was lucky he didn’t get blasted worse than he did but wisely chose to get out of the water and live to fight another day.  Aliso Beach is no joke. The decision to swim on a day like this can come with serious consequences.  The tourist got out of there before he got a taste of how quickly you can get in trouble in high surf conditions at this beach.  I am glad he made it out okay.

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Whale Beach


In a May of 2014 Pete Thomas Grind TV Article, Donna Kalez, general manager of Dana Wharf Whale Watching said that a two mile stretch of Laguna Coastline that includes Aliso was Whale Beach.  With over 40 sightings with Grey Whale mothers paired with their calves, the numbers and appearances have been surprisingly high.  Not only could you see the whales from the beach, but also there were a number of friendly encounters between whales and swimmers.

Captain Tom White of the Boat Dana Pride indicated in the article that the whales would go right up to swimmers.  That has led to more people with water cameras trying to edge closer to one of the largest animals in the wild.  Reaching 50 feet and 80,000 pounds, these are not the kind of animals that you want to get on the wrong side of, and the convergence of easily operated, digital water cameras and the desire of users to become social media stars, has people getting dangerously close to the whales.  Life guards in the area have kept people out of the water and harassment of Grey Whales is a punishable offense with a fine and potential jail time under the Marine Mammal Protection Act.  I am guessing no one wants to find out what happens when a Grey Whale Mother’s maternal instincts to protect her young kick in.  Then again, maybe getting the pictures and videos back to instagram are worth the risk.  Grey Whales have a history with whalers that would slaughter their young.  In the back of my mind, I would wonder if the Grey Whale mother I was encountering somehow had that programmed into its DNA.  A mother will always protect her young if they feel threatened because that is what mother’s do.

If you are swimmer approached by a grey whale it is recommended you keep a distance and stay calm.  Do not stick cameras on poles in their faces as you may startle them and test the her patience for the annoyance. Mothers with their calves in the Aliso Beach area are using the coves for a couple of reasons.  They have natural predators in Great White Sharks and Killer Whales that are opportunistic feeders that are known to attack the young because they are weaker and easier to take down. The mom loses significant body weight nursing her calves for the journey to the arctic feeding grounds and may be using the Laguna Coastline to rest and stay out of harms way.  It isn’t a question of if the mom’s run into trouble on the way north but when.  While using the rocky shoreline of Laguna Beach they are essentially eliminating a side that they could be attacked from by predators.  If all that wasn’t bad enough they have to be aware of cargo ships that have been known to run them over with resulting fatalities.

The Grey Whales are probably resting in the coves as well.  It is a 1200 mile journey and the moms with their calves need to measure their approach to getting to the feeding grounds with their calves safely.  With more frequent stops in the Aliso Beach Laguna area, the opportunities for whale watching boat rides and seeing them from the beach are increasing.  With that, it seems very appropriate that Aliso is Whale Beach.

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Maybe you have heard the news and maybe you haven’t.  When we as humans have such a hard time keeping our earthly home clean and free of junk, trash and other pollutants like pesticides, industrial cleaners, fuels and human sewage, none of us should be surprised or shock that space is littered with junk.  Hearing that WTF is expected to re-enter our atmosphere from space as a wayward piece of discarded space travel or satellite over the Indian Ocean is an of course we take care of space irresponsibly moment.  Articles over the last several years have talked about the incredible amount of human made junk in space, and just like with what how it is here on our own planet, it should have been cleaned up when we left it there.

Scientists are fascinated by the opportunity to study whatever is left after it partially burns up when entering our atmosphere.  It is interesting to me that they call this piece of space junk WTF given its meaning as a social media acronym used to abbreviate the exclamation of What The Fuck!  While I am sure that scientists will learn something as this thing bursts into our world, I hope that some poor fisherman is not out on his boat trying to put dinner on the table for his family when this think is put through the hot meat grinder that is our atmosphere.  If anyone is hurt, there will be many beyond those that think we shouldn’t have our space junk crash landing on our planet saying WTF.  There really isn’t any excuse for using space as a garbage dump, and apparently the world super powers that have the ability to launch people into space including our own country, think it is okay. I can only imagine the maneuverability required in any mission into space required by the craft due to our own disrespect for space.

Since we will be able to record this event, the world will bear witness to the fact that space junk can and will fall to earth at some point, putting living, breathing, unsuspecting world citizens in harm’s way.  Without question, this event is worthy of asking WTF.  It is believed that the piece will fall into the Indian Ocean on November 13th as suggested by the European Space Agency which immediately has me wondering how they can say that with certainty.  They have also said that they believe it will all burn up upon re-entry.  Wherever this thing falls from the sky and lands in the ocean remains to be seen and I hope no people find themselves unlucky enough to be in its path.  As this thing gets closer to earth, I hope they can be accurate without a shadow of doubt to alert people of risks.  There is no need for a tombstone that indicates death by WTF.  While I walk a fine line with something that really isn’t funny, it is ridiculous that we have left a bunch of metal floating around space only to fall back to earth and get us.  To think that it is possible to be at Aliso Beach and have space junk fall out of the sky and endanger us is appalling to me. To that I say, WTF and I will be praying that no one loses life as a result of treating the heavens like a wreckage yard.

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Cool Story


The Aliso Beach website has blessed me with the opportunity to share a cool story here and there.  Some are from my own experience and others come from the experiences of others who love this beach like I do.  It is not uncommon for me to visit the beach just to snap IPhone 6 Plus pictures to add content to this website.  With that work, it is not uncommon for me to start conversations with beach goers I had never met before.  This story has evolved from one of those conversations with strangers at Aliso Beach.

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Aliso Beach Kayak

On March 22, 2015 I notice a man unloading his kayak at Aliso Beach.  Short on images for the things to do kayak page on the website, I asked him if he was okay with photographing his rig.  He was a good-natured guy who willingly talked about his personal life and his experiences on the water in Laguna Beach.  Come to find out, Dan suffered from kidney disease to an extent that caused him to have dialysis 2-3 times a week. The opportunity for him to break free of this intense treatment for a couple of days a week to enjoy time on the water was really special to him. He talked about all of the wonderful things he saw on the water and how much he loved it.

When I left the conversation on that day in Aliso Beach History, I asked him if he would be interested in an interview that helped tell his story on the website. I was extremely pleased with his positive response and enthusiasm with the suggestion of telling his cool story.  Here it is October 24, 2015 and it occurred to me that I had not gotten back to him. It is not easy to continually produce amazing content for the website so opportunities like the one with Dan was something I really didn’t want to miss out on and yet here I was nearly 7 months later emailing him to ask if he remembered me.  He did, and my reminder to him of the promise to write his story was met with an incredible response. The quality of his life has improved with a miracle that he and I will expand upon in a cool story. The development in Dan’s life is so inspiring and wonderful that I cannot wait to meet up with him to bring the news to you.  The Aliso Beach Website will break this story of zest for life, triumph and never giving up hope.

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Hurricane Patricia


Hurricane Patricia, according to the National Hurricane Center, has now reached infamy as the strongest hurricane in recorded history with sustained wind speeds at 200 miles per hour or more. The center has compiled records for hurricanes affecting the eastern North Pacific Basin and the Atlantic.  Hurricanes Camile of the Gulf Coast in 1969, Andrew of the East Coast in 1992 and Katrina of the Gulf Coast with very damaging effects now pale in comparison to Hurricane Patricia.

The behemoth storm in the next couple of hours is expected to make landfall as a Category 5 Hurricane in the area of the coast of Jalisco State of Mexico which includes the popular travel and vacation destination of Puerto Vallarta.  With 8-20 inches of rain expected and sustained winds of 200 miles per hour, there could be gusts of wind hitting 245 miles an hour, flash flooding, mudslides, tidal surges and waves of epic proportions as this thing moves ashore.  Tourists and residents have been ordered to evacuate and those that are cut up will need to hold on for dear life.  I would not want to to be anywhere near this thing and my heartfelt prayers are extended to the people of Mexico, tourists and residents from other countries who find themselves in the path of this significant and dangerous storm.  You can watch live streaming of Hurricane Patricia coming ashore provided the cameras hold on in furious winds and devastating conditions.

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You are probably wondering where I am going with this.  A couple of days ago I got an email from Mark who had some concerns about parking for motorcycles at Aliso Beach.  Here is the content of his email.

From: Mark
Subject: Parking pass, Aliso Beach

Message Body:
I am going to Aliso Beach tomorrow for a work event  and riding my motorcycle. Is a parking pass required for motorcycles? If so, how do I display it? The “display on driver dash” won’t work as the pass would fly away or could be taken by another. Thank you for your prompt response.

VIP Allaince, Kris, Scorpion P6, Aliso Beach, South Laguna

Kris of VIP Alliance With Scorpion P6

I would like to personally apologize to Mark because he thanked me in advance for a prompt response that he did not get. His email requesting more information on Aliso Beach parking rules for motorcycles found its way into spam.  Sorting through all the garbage in there that the website receives as a result of submitting the site to directories and search engines, I found his email and was bummed not to have responded right away.  Sorry Mark!  It was my bad for sure.

Never having ridden a motorcycle, I can’t say what the rules are at Aliso Beach for parking. The website does not specifically address parking for them and so despite my rational ignorance and an honest attempt to get the answer, I will have to call the county for more info that I may pass along. Mark is absolutely right that with his bike he is unable to display anything on the dash like you would in a car. The cruel ocean breezes could indeed carry the pass away resulting in a volunteer retiree or parking enforcement officer happily writing you an expensive parking ticket. I realize that skim boarders, body boarders, body surfers, surfers and kids with go pros might take the pass left on your bike when their intensive search through damp, salty towels, boards, fins, trunks and wet suits in their cars might not produce 3 hours of parking change. It presents a real dilemma and I honestly don’t have a definitive answer.  One would think that the County of Orange would specifically address this on the website.

The OC Parks Website says that the pass is for day-use and it permits one vehicle to park with the owner or operator of the vehicle assuming all liability with use of the pass.  In my mind, the word vehicle does not include motorcycles so I was thinking there was something to that differentiation that would allow Mark to go without a pass.  Wikipedia says a vehicle is a mobile machine that transports people or cargo so I am confident that OC Parks wants owners of motorcycles to pay for and display a pass.  The California Department of Motor Vehicles has a separate handbook for motorcycle riders and drivers.  Although it seems like some evidence of loopholes for motorcycle riders, you won’t catch me advising anyone that parking enforcement and senior volunteers won’t happily lighten their wallets.

In my search for the answer, I did stumble across a Yelp Review praising daily free motorcycle parking at Aliso Beach.  I thought maybe I had new information that would help Mark and the reality based on this Yelp post is that I do and I don’t.  When you open up the review, the picture is of a motorcycle parked on the incline of South Coast Highway, and yes that is free parking on a first come first park basis.  As for the lot, I am afraid that there is no sympathy or exceptions for motorcycles. At this point, I am unaware of any specially designated areas for parking at Aliso Beach other than handicapped spots and there is nothing in the OC Parks parking info section that suggests motorcycles get preferential treatment. I will dig into this though and ask the county why the website doesn’t specifically address this situation with reference to motorcycles.  I think it is a fair question and that lumping motorcycles into all vehicles for the purpose of parking rules leaves riders parking a little unsure of what to do.

I am of the opinion that motorcycle riders should be paying for parking as per the rules at OC Parks.  It is understandable that many of these bikes do not have a great place to display a pass. The problem is that no matter how those passes disappear from the bike, a ticket will be written for failure to display it.  What I would do is take a cell video of you getting the pass so if you choose to waste a day and fight the ticket, you are armed with something of substance to defend your position of having paid for parking and properly displaying the pass.  That is all for now on this, but I will try and get a clear explanation on where motorcycle riders should display the pass when they park at Aliso Beach.


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100 Year Solution


It looks like the 100 year solution is waiting on only the California Coastal Commission to begin work replacing the sewer pipeline system in South Laguna and improvements to stabilize the tunnel system housing the pipelines.  Infrastructure has a shelf life and must be replaced.  Given the fragile state of the marine ecosystem and the pressure that population growth puts on aging sewer pipes, I applaud the South County Water District and the city of Laguna Beach for working cooperatively and transparently between 2008 and 2014 with 30 public meetings to get this done. The work proposed for the 2 mile tunnel that runs under the bluff in South Laguna includes increasing the size of the tunnel, removing loose rocks and replacing deteriorating wooden supports with steel ones.  This should protect workers from injury as well as provide a more comfortable area to perform important work.  This system, built in 1954, carries millions of gallons of waste water per day to the local treatment facility for processing, and it is the right time to make the improvements.

With the final go ahead approval in the hands of the Coastal Commission, project commencement must be close.  The district has created a mock up of a staging area for supplies, equipment and trucks that are required to tackle the project.  It will be located on the southeastern section of Aliso Beach up against the bluff.  Work will take 1-2 years to complete at a drop in the bucket of $90 million dollars.  Work will begin daily at 7:00 am and 6:00 pm which I am sure won’t make a particular resident on the cliff on that side very happy.  I have read that property owners affected by this project have been helpful with easements that will allow district engineers and construction workers to do what is necessary to successfully complete the project.  It is believed that parking and access to the beach and recreation will be minimal with some degree of trucks in the way and noise produced by work that simply has to get done.

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Looking out of the tube at blue sky and palm trees. Photo Credit: Scotty Carter

If I saw one drawback to the staging area on the beach is the coincidence of work getting approved and a abnormally wet El Nino winter predicted.  Work was projected to begin in 2015, and that remains to be seen if it will officially begin in the calendar year.  I just wonder if like in past strong El Ninos, there will be massive waves and huge tidal surges that endanger the fenced in area for equipment, trucks and supplies.  The staging area of the project is said to be in year 2 so perhaps it isn’t even an issue, but Hurricane Marie with massive waves proved that there doesn’t have to be an El Nino to have tide and wave events swallow up the beach.  On the last couple of large wave events, high tides have pushed sand, seaweed and salt water into the parking lot.

SCWD in South Laguna appears to be preparing everyone for the work to start.  The aim of these needed improvements is to support marine protection areas in Laguna, insulate local economies from failing infrastructure and loss of revenue and protect neighboring communities.  They have released drawings of the staging area that they anticipate having on the beach in Aliso and appear ready to go.  This work is an investment into the future that is needed and worth the nuisances that will surely come with the project.

You can see more on the tunnel project by clicking on the link.



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Thats A First


Yesterday was interesting.  You get to your mid 40’s and there really aren’t many that’s a first moments in life.  I had to take my car in to get the rear brakes replaced and that is without question not a that’s a first moment.  Obviously that is too bad because I would love to avoid the routine maintenance expenses.  The tire and brake place had a lull in their normally crazy, busy days and I was surprisingly in a situation where the job would take an hour or less. Normally, there would be more time to kill waiting for the work to be done.

I walked out across the parking lot after deciding check out Board And Brews, a surfing themed sandwich place that came with rave reviews from people I know all over Orange County. As I walked that way, I witnessed something that left me simultaneously dumbstruck and furious.  A cigarette butt was lobbed out the window of a parked car with New York plates that was sitting in the lot. The plates didn’t really bother me but the act itself upset me to an extent that almost had me coming out of my shoes.

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A reminder of what we must fight so hard to protect for future generations.

As I walked towards the passenger side of the vehicle on my trek to the restaurant I noticed the window was half way down.  I won’t sugar coat what I said to her as it was both angry and containing language I wish I hadn’t used.  Throwing cigarette butts out of cars onto parking lots and roads is unacceptable behavior.  Cigarette butts are still the number one trash item found and picked up at beach cleanups.  This tells us either the people doing it are stupid and just don’t know any better or they are disrespectful and just don’t care about the toxins that leak into the environment from cigarette butt litter.  As an advocate for clean ocean water and Aliso Beach, there was no way I could let that behavior go unchecked.

I said what I said.  I own that, and I could have been nicer with the words i chose and my tone of voice.  As I walked by I turned and said, “Really, throwing a cigarette butt out the window?  That is fucking terrible!  Those go to the ocean.”  Needless to say I was upset.  She looked dazed when I barked that at her as we locked eyes for a brief moment. She said nothing.  I don’t know if she was shocked, so angry she could not speak, or made to think about what she did.  I do know that it got her attention.  I did not walk across the parking lot looking for someone to yell at and wasn’t in a bad mood when I saw the cigarette butt land on the ground still smoldering.  That change of mood turned on a dime and part of me feels bad about it.

Confrontation was not a part of my schedule yesterday so after I let the woman have it for what she did, I continued to walk away.  I must have traveled a 100 feet when I heard the woman say, “Thank you”.  When I turned around I saw her get out of her car and pick her cigarette butt with a gesture I can say now that’s a first.  This isn’t the only time I have picked on someone for throwing a cigarette out the window and man do I wish the litter police was around when these people throw them onto our streets.  It’s not a cool behavior and we have a right to say something.  I applaud the woman for thinking about what I yelled at her and simply taking responsibility for it and picking it up.

When you confront someone in the way I did it, the typical reaction is to snap back even when someone knows they are wrong.  I am putting a humble apology into the universe to this woman for the yelling, anger, and not so nice language.  I am glad you picked that up and I hope that maybe you help someone else understand that cigarette butt litter fouls our valuable coastal resources and ecosystems.  We have to fight for the ocean to preserve them for future generations.  So thank you for putting aside that I yelled at you for a moment and doing what is right.  Our ocean thanks you as well!



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